Feeling Beings Who Think
Join Episcopal priest and leadership coach Arianne Rice for insightful conversations with clergy, coaches, and leaders on careers, callings, and personal growth. Through the stories and reflections of others, you’ll find inspiration, wisdom, and practical insights to deepen your own journey and bring more of your unique gifts into the work you do.
Episodes

Wednesday Mar 05, 2025
Wednesday Mar 05, 2025
Today, I’m speaking with Bishop Jennifer Reddall, the sixth bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Arizona and the first woman to serve in that role. A graduate of Yale University with a degree in Theater Studies, Bishop Reddall has long understood the power of storytelling.
In our conversation, Bishop Reddall shares how being a witness to the stories of people and communities is central to her leadership. As is emphasizing the importance of joy, celebration, and affirming the unique contributions of each individual and community. Thanks for listening!
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Bio
Bishop Jennifer A. Reddall is the sixth and first female bishop of the Diocese of Arizona. Elected in 2018 and ordained in 2019, she previously served as rector of Church of the Epiphany in New York City. She leads 64 worshiping communities, fostering deep faith, inclusivity, and discipleship. A collaborative leader, she prioritizes pastoral care for clergy, diocesan unity, evangelism in Hispanic and Latino communities, and advocacy for antiracism, creation care, and immigrant support. A California native, she holds a Yale degree in Theater Studies and is a former Episcopal Service Corps member.

Monday Feb 03, 2025
Monday Feb 03, 2025
Today I'm speaking with Leadership Coach Dan Henderson, who spent years building a career in business—founding companies, working in venture capital, and leading major acquisitions - until an undiagonosed discovery changed the trajectory of his career and set him on a journey—not just of understanding himself, but of reframing his entire story.
In this conversation, Dan shares how he transformed what he once saw as a deficit into his greatest strength. We dive into the emotional landscape of leadership, the power of finding community, and why the stories we tell ourselves—especially the ones about not being ‘enough’—deserve to be challenged. Thanks for listening!
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Bio
Dan Henderson spent nearly three decades building and successfully exiting high-growth businesses as a founder, venture investor, and corporate development executive. He played key roles in companies like FastSoft (acquired by Akamai) and BeClose (incubated at Alarm.com), led global M&A for 3Pillar Global, and invested in startups that achieved valuations in the hundreds of millions.
Now an ICF-accredited leadership coach and Founder of Gravity Insights he helps business leaders navigate growth, blind spots, and work-life balance with insight from his own journey. He also volunteers as a business advisor, plays fiddle in an award-winning bluegrass band, and lives in Falls Church, VA, with his family and an assortment of pets.

Sunday Jan 26, 2025
Sunday Jan 26, 2025
“I realized what I wanted hadn’t been invented yet.” Today I’m speaking with Callie Swanlund—Episcopal priest, retreat leader, spiritual companion, and coach—about her journey to finding fulfillment and helping others do the same. Author of From Weary to Wholehearted: A Restorative Resource for Overcoming Clergy Burnout, Callie shares how creativity, play, and rest can help us live into who we’re called to be. I hope this sparks reflection on your own journey. Thanks for listening and sharing!"
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Bio
Callie Swanlund is an Episcopal priest, retreat leader, spiritual companion, and coach who helps others know their belovedness and find their Spark. Her new book, From Weary to Wholehearted, is a restorative resource for overcoming ministry burnout. Callie is a creative minister and leads individuals and groups in the work of Dr. Brené Brown as a Certified Daring Way Facilitator. Her How2charist: Digital Instructed Eucharist film has reached Christians and curious individuals around the world, and her Wholehearted Wisdom movement invites others into deeper reflection and connection across social media. Callie is an Episcopal Church Foundation Fellow and has keynoted such conferences as: Kanuga Christian Formation Conference, Episcopal Communicators Annual Conference, and Episcopal Camps and Conference Centers Annual Conference. She lives in Philadelphia with her co-dreaming partner Jeremy, their two tween/teen children, and a rescue pup named Rufus. www.callieswanlund.com | callie@callieswanlund.com

Wednesday Jan 08, 2025
Wednesday Jan 08, 2025
You may be familiar with the idea of love languages – a way to understand how we express and receive love in romantic relationships. But what about the relationships we have in and with our work and leadership? In this episode, I explore how connecting with our heart language can transform the way we show up, listen, and engage. My guest, Sandra Dorsainvil, embodies this deeply. As an ordained minister, leadership coach, and retreat facilitator, Sandra’s work is rooted in meaningful questions and deep listening. Her bilingual fluency and cross-cultural experience bring rich perspective to coaching and supporting BIPOC women in leadership. Tune in for a thoughtful conversation about vulnerability, connection, and leading with heart.
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You can connect with Sandra on her site, read her article "Take A Breath", and listen on YouTube!
Bio
The Rev. Sandra Dorsainvil is an ordained minister with the American Baptist Churches, USA, and a certified coach with the International Coaching Federation. She serves as a ministry coach and retreat facilitator with The Center for Career Development and Ministry, and through her private practice, she offers coaching to BIPOC women in leadership. With bilingual fluency in English and French and cross-cultural experience across Africa, Europe, and North America, Sandra brings a sensitive and unique approach to her work.
Sandra holds graduate degrees in pastoral ministry, rehabilitation counseling, and psychology. She has over 35 years of experience in counseling, advocacy, program development, pastoral leadership, and international ministry. A published author and regular contributor to The Christian Citizen, Sandra’s passion lies in deep listening, presence, and prayerful engagement.
In her free time, she enjoys paddleboarding, beach vacations, and time with her grandchildren.

Wednesday Dec 11, 2024
Wednesday Dec 11, 2024
"Helping families learn to communicate effectively, define shared values, engage in philanthropy feels very much like pastoral care." In this episode, I'm speaking with Luke Jernagan, an Episcopal priest whose journey led him beyond traditional church walls. After experiencing burnout in congregational ministry, Luke finds himself intersecting with generations of families as the Managing Director of Family Learning in a multi-family advisement firm. His story reminds us that our vocational paths often extend far beyond conventional boundaries, inviting us to consider how our own gifts might flourish in unexpected places. Thanks for listening!
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Guest Bio
Luke joined Matter Family Office in 2022 after 15 years as an Episcopal priest, bringing his passion for helping people navigate life’s joys and challenges. As Managing Director of Family Learning, he helps families strengthen relationships, communicate effectively, and focus on what matters most. Luke also leads Matter’s Culture & Learning committee, crafting practices to foster continuous growth. Previously, he served as Rector of St. Peter’s Church in Ladue, Missouri, where he remains a Priest Associate, and he is president of the Cricket Island Foundation, supporting youth-led social change.

Wednesday Nov 06, 2024
Wednesday Nov 06, 2024
"Real authority comes from integrity." Today I'm speaking with Nathan Kirkpatrick one of the principal consultants of Saison Consulting, LLC leading faith communities and organizations in strategic visioning and growth. And we are talking aboutthe backstage work of aligning our values with our leadership. It is a choice to authentically and intentionally share your story as a leader. Doing so builds trust and connection when it is done with integrity. Thanks Nathan for sharing so thoughtfully in this conversation!. Thanks for listening.
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Connect with Nathan Kirkpatrick and Saison Consulting.
Bio
Nathan Kirkpatrick is one of the principal consultants of Saison Consulting, LLC, an Episcopal priest, former Managing Director of Alban at Duke Divinity School (2014–2021) and Leadership Education at Duke Divinity (2007–2021), he has worked with hundreds of congregations nationwide, from rural Oregon to New York City. His expertise includes facilitating strategic visioning for organizations and teaching in the Executive Certificate in Religious Fundraising through the Lilly Endowment-supported Lake Institute on Faith & Giving. Nathan regularly trains leaders globally on change management, innovation, sustainability, and leadership. Outside of work, his passions include photography, wine, cooking, running, and cycling.

Wednesday Oct 30, 2024
Wednesday Oct 30, 2024
“Our truest personhood, lies in the freedom of being who we are, in our own unique createdness.” Today I’m speaking with Ilia Delio, a Franciscan, theologian, author, and Chair of Theology at Villanova University - and this is not just a conversation for theologians! We delve into Delio's unique perspective on the intersection of science and religion, discuss the themes of wholeness, love as the highest form of knowing, and the importance of embracing change in spiritual growth. Delio is also the founder of the Center for Christogenesis which fosters dialogue and education on the intersection of faith and science, aiming to inspire a transformative understanding of Christianity. I am so grateful that she joined me and to be able to share her work with you. Thanks for listening!
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Learn more about Ilia Delio
Connect with Ilia Delio and The Center for Christogenesis
Watch and listen to the lecture God, Evolution and The Power of Love I refer to in our conversation.

Wednesday Oct 16, 2024
Wednesday Oct 16, 2024
"Our human spirituality flows out from our relationship with the earth." Today I'm speaking with Mark Wastler, Episcopal priest, farmer, spiritual director and founder of Chesapeake Watershed Ministries and together, we explore the themes of listening, creation, and embodied wisdom. We dive into our vocational portfolios and discuss how they continue to shape our understanding of who we are, our leadership, and our spirituality in this ongoing journey of becoming more attentive and present to our truest selves.
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Bio
Mark Wastler is a farmer, priest, conservationist, and spiritual director. He is the founder and executive director of Chesapeake Watershed Ministries, a non-profit organization helping reconnect human spirituality with local ecology. Learn more about Mark and this transformative work at chesapeakewatershedministries.org

Wednesday Oct 09, 2024
Wednesday Oct 09, 2024
"Let's do the work, listen to each other and trust our own selves."
Today I'm speaking with my friend and colleague, the Rev. Canon Erika von Haaren who I spoke with for the episode "Being Seen for Who We Are" in 2023. In her leadership roles Erika guides communities and individuals to do the work of true listening. That precious skill that takes time, encourages others, and models curious inquisitiveness that is more about creating solutions than finding the right answers. So what happens when we use that same listening skill to get curious about ourselves - and are surprised by who we are turning out to be?
Thanks to Erika for sharing so generously from her professional and personal experience - and thank you for listening!
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Bio
The Rev. Canon Erika von Haaren is an Episcopal priest, Enneagram coach, and mother of three pretty great kids. She currently serves as Priest in Charge at Trinity Cathedral in Phoenix, Arizona where she is focusing her energy on strategic change management for their future. She serves as President of the Standing Committee of the Diocese of Arizona, and as a mentor-coach of the VTS Thriving in Ministry Program; and also created the Practical Priest Formation Program to develop new priests in their ministries. She is a weightlifter, newly avid bird-watcher, and member of the Phoenix Women’s Chorus. Find her at www.havenconsultingaz.com.

Wednesday Sep 25, 2024
Wednesday Sep 25, 2024
"The constant embracing of whatever is and saying yes!" Join me as I chat with Rev. Joe Hensley about the fascinating blend of spirituality, leadership, and imagination. From his unique path to the priesthood, Joe offers deep insights on how imagination and vulnerability shape his ministry and leadership.
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Bio
The Rev. Joe Hensley (he/him) grew up in Greensboro, NC and attended the North Carolina School of Science and Mathematics and UNC Chapel Hill (BA Philosophy 1996). A monastery experience at age 23 helped cement his commitment to Christ. He later worked as a professional youth minister and for a community mediation center. At age 33, he graduated (DMin) from Virginia Theological Seminary and was ordained an Episcopal deacon and then priest in 2007. He served as assistant rector at St. Luke’s Episcopal Church in Durham, NC from 2007 until 2014. Since 2015, he has been rector of St. George’s Episcopal Church in Fredericksburg, VA. Joe loves exploring a playful path of “holy foolishness” which seeks joy in the midst of failure and hilarious grace in the midst of chaos. He is committed to his own work toward justice and healing and dismantling all forms of oppression which inhibit our flourishing as God’s beloved children. Joe, who also goes by “Jody,” and his spouse of 25 years, Sarah White, have had four children, Lucy, Alice (deceased 2005), Stella, and Owen. Along the way, he has had gigs as a musician, Outward Bound instructor, and performing clown (“Ashes”). He loves singing, playing and exercising outside, contemplative practices, and making holy mischief.