
Wednesday Oct 22, 2025
From Ancient Words to Contemporary Wisdom with Carmen Acevedo Butcher
Today I'm speaking with Carmen Acevedo Butcher award-winning translator, writer, and core faculty of The Center for Action and Contemplation. Her translations of The Cloud of Unknowing and Practice of the Presence reveals timeless wisdom for anyone drawn to contemplative life, beyond any one tradition. Together, we explore the non-binary nature of spirituality, the power of presence, and how ancient wisdom continues to speak to the questions of our modern lives.
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Mystical Traditions
02:49 Carmen's Journey and Vocation
05:54 The Art of Translation as Spiritual Practice
09:05 Childhood Influences and Early Struggles
12:12 Finding Healing Through Nature and Language
15:00 The Role of Trauma in Shaping Identity
18:08 The Search for Self and Spirituality
20:53 The Complexity of Pride and Agency
23:51 Listening as a Path to Understanding
27:13 The Process of Translation and Interpretation
30:04 Beyond Binary Thinking in Spirituality
32:59 The Influence of Historical Context on Spiritual Texts
36:04 The Universal Message of The Cloud of Unknowing
38:57 Brother Lawrence and the Practice of Presence
42:11 The Importance of Grace in Spiritual Life
44:50 Concluding Thoughts and Reflections
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