Wednesday Oct 22, 2025

From Ancient Words to Contemporary Wisdom with Carmen Acevedo Butcher

Today I'm speaking with Carmen Acevedo Butcher award-winning translator, writer, and core faculty of The Center for Action and Contemplation. Her translations of The Cloud of Unknowing and Practice of the Presence reveals timeless wisdom for anyone drawn to contemplative life, beyond any one tradition. Together, we explore the non-binary nature of spirituality, the power of presence, and how ancient wisdom continues to speak to the questions of our modern lives.

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Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Mystical Traditions

02:49 Carmen's Journey and Vocation

05:54 The Art of Translation as Spiritual Practice

09:05 Childhood Influences and Early Struggles

12:12 Finding Healing Through Nature and Language

15:00 The Role of Trauma in Shaping Identity

18:08 The Search for Self and Spirituality

20:53 The Complexity of Pride and Agency

23:51 Listening as a Path to Understanding

27:13 The Process of Translation and Interpretation

30:04 Beyond Binary Thinking in Spirituality

32:59 The Influence of Historical Context on Spiritual Texts

36:04 The Universal Message of The Cloud of Unknowing

38:57 Brother Lawrence and the Practice of Presence

42:11 The Importance of Grace in Spiritual Life

44:50 Concluding Thoughts and Reflections

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